From: LeRoy Felzien
Sent: Friday, 03 September, 2004 13:59
To: Dan Felzien
Subject: Felzien Family History
 
----- Original Message -----
From: David Murray
To: LeRoy Felzien
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Felzien Family History

Yes you are missing something!  :)  Did you receive the attachment titled "Johann Christoph Welsin Family" ?  Ernst and Fred's father is Johann Christoph Welsin and their mother is Friedericka Sophia Rosenkrantz.  The children listed on the Johann Christoph Welsin Family Group Sheet are Ernst and Fred and their siblings.  It is a bit confusing because according to the baptism records Ernst & Fred had the exact same names. 
 
The family group sheets for Auguste Leonore Fredricke Velsin and the one for Johann Christian Friederich Schroeder is Ernst and Fred's sister, the one for Carl Heinrich Rosenkrantz is Ernst and Fred's maternal grandparents, and I forgot to send you one for Lindhorst, which is another sister.
 
Vonnie
 
Here is the family group sheet for the Johann Christoph Welsin Family again in case you didn't receive the attachment.
Let me know if you need any of the others.  I can send you the one on Lindhorst if you want it.
 
 

Name:            Johann Christoph WELSIN1  (THIS IS ERNST AND FRED'S FATHER)

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Death:            bef 18632

Father:            Jochen WELSIN (-<1816)

Marriage:            3 May 1816            Helpt, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany1

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Spouse:            Friedericka Sophia ROSENKRANZ3  (THIS IS ERNST AND FRED'S MOTHER)

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Birth:            11 Dec 1789            Helpte, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany3

Death:            10 Dec 1863            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany2

Burial:            13 Dec 1863            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany2

Father:            Carl Heinrich ROSENKRANZ (~1761-<1816)

Mother:            Maria Sophia PAETZEN

 

Children:

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1 F:            Sophia Friederica Ida WELSIEN4  (THIS IS ERNST AND FRED'S SISTER)

Birth:            19 Aug 1816            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany4

Death:            26 Aug 1828            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany5

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2 F:            Johanna Christiana Friederica WELSIN    (ANOTHER SISTER)

Birth:            28 Apr 1818            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany6

Death:            2 Jun 1819            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany7

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3 F:            Hanna Sophia Friedericka WELSIEN8      (ANOTHER SISTER)

Birth:            3 May 1820            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany8

Spouse:            Carl Friedrich Joseph LINDHORST

Marriage:            15 Oct 1847            Badresch, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany9

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4 M:            Johann Joachim Friedrich VELZIEN10  (ERNST AND FRED'S BROTHER)

Birth:            21 Feb 1823            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany10

Death:            2 Sep 1828            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany11

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5 F:            Auguste Friedrike Wilhelmine VELSIEN12  (ANOTHER SISTER)

Birth:            22 Jun 1825            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany12

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6 M:            Ernst Christian Friedrich VELSIEN/FELZIEN13  (THIS IS ERNST)

Birth:            3 Mar 1828            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany13

Death:            11 Jan 1886            Kenesaw, Adams Co., Nebraska, U.S.A.14

Spouse:     Christine Auguste KORTZ

Marriage:            abt 1859            Illinois15

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7 F:            Auguste Leonore Friedrike VELSIN16  (ANOTHER SISTER)

Birth:            26 May 1830            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany16

Spouse:    

Spouse:            Johann Christian Friedrich SCHROEDER

Marriage:            22 Oct 1857            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany17

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8 M:            Ernst Christian Friedrich VELSIN/FELZIEN18  (THIS IS FRED)

Birth:            27 Oct 1838            Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany18

Death:            21 Feb 1933            Hastings, Nebraska19

Spouse:            Sophia Elizabeth EINSPAHR

Marriage:            25 Apr 1869            Blue Island, Cook Co, Illinois19

 

 

Notes for Johann Christoph WELSIN

Johann's occupation was a laborer.  This small bit of information tells us volumes about his life and also helps us to understand why his sons, Ernst and Fred immigrated to America.  As a laborer on area farms he would have been  very knowledgable about farming and livestock and probably had a love of the land, yet never in his life would he have had the opportunity to own land for himself.  During  this time period in Mecklenburg if a man was a laborer he would always be a laborer.  Johann had neither the opportunity to own land, nor could he have changed his occupation and learned a skill.  As a laborer's sons, Ernst and Fred also could only have been laborers.  A laborer's children did not have the right to learn a skill either, nor could they own land.  There were no future prospects for them in Mecklenburg.  A laborer also lived a life of poverty.  Most of them lived in rented cottages in the village and went to work each day at the nearby farms.  The wages they earned barely covered their cost of living. 

 

We found it interesting that vaccinations the children received were recorded in the church record book.  They were vaccinated as a baby and again when they were confirmed.  Johann and Friedericka lost three children to epidemics.  The first to die was their second daughter, Johanna.  She died in 1819 at the age of 1 year.  At this point we don't know what the disease was as the word was abbreviated and was an old-fashioned term that my friend was unfamiliar with, but there was a list of children who had died from the same disease.  The second epidemic that they lost children to was a measles epidemic in 1828.  In this epidemic they lost their oldest daughter Sophie Friedrike Ida at the age of 12 years and their first-born son Johann Joachim at the age of 5 years.  Ernst was 5 months old at this time.

 

 

 

Notes for Friedericka Sophia ROSENKRANZ

Baptism witnesses were whiskey brewer, Michel Mein;  Sophia Paetzen of Holzendorf, Friederica Burwigs of Holzendorf.3

Friederica Sophia Rosenkranz confirmed 1805 Helpt, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany.20

 

 

Sources

1. "Marriage Record," 3 May 1816, Helpte, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Marriage 2., Page 219, Microfilm #006756, LDS Family History Library.

2. "Burial Record," 13 December 1863, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Burial 7., Page 204, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

3. "Baptism Record," 11 Dec 1789, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 7, Page, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

4. "Baptism Record," 1 Sep 1816, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 8, Page 22, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

5. "Burial Records," 26 August 1828, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Burial 8., Page 169, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

6. "Baptism Record," 3 May 1818, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 8, Page 30 (28), Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

7. "Burial Record," 4 June 1819, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Burial 16, Page 161, Microfilm #006756, LDS Family History Library.

8. "Baptism Record," 11 May 1820, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Page 33, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

9. "Marriage Record," 15 Oct 1847, Badresch, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Marriage 1., Page 164, Microfilm #0069709, LDS Family History Library.

10. "Baptism Record," 2 Mar 1823, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 2, Page 37 (?), Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

11. "Burial Record," 5 September 1828, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Burial 9, Page 169, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

12. "Baptism Record," 3 July 1825, Holzenburg, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 10, Page 46, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

13. "Baptism Record," 16 March 1828, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 7, Page 53, Microfilm 0069756, LDS Family History Library.

14. "Burial Record," 14  January 1886, Zion Lutheran Cemetery, Ledger A-266, Zion-Wanda Lutheran Church, R.R. 1 Box 102, Juniata, Nebraska 68955.

15. "1860 U.S. Federal Census," Worth Twp, Cook Co, Illinois, Blue Island P.O., 4 June 1860, Electronic Image, Ancestry.com, 20 May 2003.

16. "Baptism Record," 30 May 1830, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 5, Page 59, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

17. "Marriage Record," 22 October 1857, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Marriage 1., Page 249, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

18. "Baptism Record," 11 November 1838, Holzendorf, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, Baptism 16, Page 80, Microfilm #0069756, LDS Family History Library.

19. "Felzien Family Tree," LeRoy W. Felzien, May 1983.

20. "Confirmation Record," 1805, Helpte, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Germany, LDS Family History Library Microfilm #0069756, Page 184.

 

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Last Modified:            19 Jun 2004

Created:            20 Jun 2004

 

 
----- Original Message -----
From: LeRoy Felzien
To: Vonnilou
Sent: 6/21/04 8:45:04 PM
Subject: Re: Felzien Family History

Vonnie you said something about you had gotten the names of Ernst and Fred's siblings, but I didn't see them in this.  Am I missing something??
LeRoy
----- Original Message -----
From: David Murray
To: j-lfelz
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: Felzien Family History

LeRoy,
 
Here is the information that I have so far.  There will be more information eventually.  I still have completed going through the two films I have now and there are more to oder.  Let me know if you have questions.
 
Vonnie
 
 
David Murray
Vonnilou
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